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Skyrim:With Friends Like These...

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Repay your debt to the Family, and show you are willing to kill on command.
Quest Giver: Astrid, on sleeping some time after completing Innocence Lost
Location(s): Abandoned Shack
Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary
Prerequisite Quest: Innocence Lost
Next Quest: Sanctuary
Destroy the Dark Brotherhood!
Concurrent Quest: The optional quest, Delayed Burial, will become unavailable partway through the quest
Reward: Shrouded Armor,
Word for the Marked for Death shout,
Membership in the Dark Brotherhood
Disposition: 0→1 (Astrid)
ID: DB02
Three potential victims await your decision.

Quick WalkthroughEdit

  1. (Optional) Receive a mysterious note from a courier.
  2. Go to sleep.
  3. Kill a captive or the Dark Brotherhood's leader.
  4. Choose to join or destroy the Dark Brotherhood.

Detailed WalkthroughEdit

A Mysterious Note and a Good Night's SleepEdit

The Mysterious Note

Some time after Aventus Aretino rewards you for killing Grelod the Kind and you've left Windhelm, a courier will approach you and deliver a Mysterious Note bearing the ominous words "We know." The next time you sleep for any duration, you will "awake after a full sleep" to find that you have been mysteriously transported to unfamiliar surroundings. The quest can also sometimes be started after completing Aventus's quest by sleeping in any bed, even before receiving the Mysterious Note from the courier.

Astrid's TestEdit

You will awaken in an abandoned shack to a greeting from Astrid. She will calmly inform you that your killing of Grelod the Kind has pleased the Dark Brotherhood, but that, in doing so, you stole a contract belonging to the Night Mother, the Brotherhood's disembodied spiritual leader. Thus, you must repay your debt: "A life for a life", as Astrid explains. She will tell you that you cannot leave the room until someone dies. The unpickable door to exit the shack is locked, and Astrid has the key.

You have the option of fulfilling the Night Mother's demand for a life by killing Astrid. Doing this will cause you to fail this quest and immediately start the Destroy the Dark Brotherhood! quest.

If you don't wish to kill Astrid, the room is also occupied by three bound captives. Astrid will inform you that "One of these poor sods has a contract out on their life. Which one is it?" It is up to you to figure out which and then carry out the job. You can refuse to carry out the job, but you can't avoid killing somebody.

When facing them, the captive to the left-hand side is Fultheim the Fearless, a mercenary. He claims to be unaware of anyone in particular who would want him dead, but reasons that, being a sell-sword, any number of people could hold a grudge against him. When intimidated, he also admits, "Maybe there were... times I got carried away? But war is war."

The captive in the center is Alea Quintus, a crass and abrasive mother of six who constantly and irritatingly demands to be released. She indicates that the tough attitude she has adopted to manage so many children might motivate someone to wish her dead. "Do some people look down on me? Have I made some enemies? You're damn right."

The final captive, to the right-hand side, is a Khajiit named Vasha, who casually incriminates himself as an "obtainer of goods, taker of lives, and defiler of daughters." He is the only one of the three who remains calm in the face of imminent death, and mentions that this isn't the first time he's been "bagged and dragged." He also states that "If one of my enemies wouldn't pay to have me killed, I'd take it as a personal insult."

In truth, it doesn't matter which captive(s) you choose. You won't encounter any of them again (unless you return to the shack, and even then you won't be able to learn more). If you kill one or more of them, Astrid will give you the password to the Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary's "The Black Door". You will then be given a key to let yourself out of the shack.

Enter the Dark Brotherhood SanctuaryEdit

The Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary is located almost due south of the Abandoned Shack, near the southern border of the province of Skyrim and just west of Falkreath.

Upon entering the Sanctuary, the optional Delayed Burial quest will fail if you started it, or be unavailable if you have not started it. If you want to do this minor quest, detour to the quest location, north of Whiterun, on the way to the sanctuary.

When you activate the Sanctuary's entrance, The Black Door, it will ask, "What is the music of life?" Answer with the password Astrid taught you: "Silence, my brother". You will be welcomed to your new "home" and the door will open.

Speak Again with AstridEdit

Find Astrid inside. She will welcome you to the family by giving you several pieces of Shrouded Armor apparel, which provide enhancements useful to assassins. (There are also several other Shrouded Armor pieces on a shelf to the right of the room.) You are a now a full member of the Dark Brotherhood, and enjoy all the advantages associated therewith.

Astrid will reveal that she is currently arranging an important job to give you, and that you should, in the meantime, take care of some routine assassination contracts handled by Nazir. She will encourage you to introduce yourself to your new family members and give a rundown on how the Brotherhood operates. She gives a brief history on the Brotherhood and also informs you that they have done away with all rules and policies except for one simple principle, "Respect the Family". You may also learn that the corpse of the Night Mother is en route to the Sanctuary, though she does not know when it might arrive.

She finishes by again directing you to Nazir, assigning you your next quest, Sanctuary.


One achievement is unlocked at the end of this quest:

  •   With Friends Like These... (10 points/Bronze)


  • The key required to exit the Abandoned Shack will not appear in Astrid's inventory if you attempt to pick her pocket, but will only appear in her inventory if you kill her.
  • The amount of time you choose to sleep just before Astrid takes you is irrelevant—no time will pass and your "Hours Slept" statistic will not be updated. After waking up in the Abandoned Shack, the Rested effect will be applied nevertheless.
  • All the captives wear a unique headpiece that can be looted or pickpocketed; although it covers your eyes, you can still see while wearing it.
  • After Astrid's initial speech and before killing any of the captives, you can attempt to pickpocket her if you have the Misdirection perk. If you succeed, you can obtain a complete set of Shrouded Armor along with her Blade of Woe. At the end of the Brotherhood quest chain, you'll get another Blade of Woe as the reward, making it possible to dual-wield them. If you choose to spare the captives and kill Astrid instead after pickpocketing her equipment, she will be an easy kill as she obviously won't be wearing her armor or weapon. On the other hand, if your pickpocket is high enough to steal these things, you're probably powerful enough in other ways to kill her even if she was wearing them.
  • The rewarded Shrouded Armor consists of a set of Armor, Boots, a Cowl and a pair of Gloves. This set is marked as Light Armor.
  • If you start this quest before receiving the Mysterious Note, it will never be sent to you.
  • An unused NPC with the name "Player Friend" is associated with this quest, but was not implemented in the final release of the game. Pre-release reports for Skyrim claimed that the Dark Brotherhood would make you assassinate NPCs whom your character had befriended, which this NPC's association with this quest corroborates.
    • In the Creation Kit, earlier versions for some lines can be seen. Astrid's last line when you refuse to cooperate is normally "Now it's time to face the consequences of your actions. You don't leave this shack until someone dies.", but it's shown that the earlier version actually would've said "Now it's time to face the consequences of your actions. So, kill a friend, then sleep, and I'll visit you once more. To finalize your repayment." This line also corroberates the fact you would've had to kill an NPC you had befriended.
    • Similarly, Babette would normally say: "There you are! Astrid's told me all about you. Heard she pulled the ole' "Choose your victim" gag with you. Ah, I love that one..." when meeting you for the first time in the Sanctuary, but the earlier version goes as such: "There you are! Astrid's told me all about you. I guess you did it, huh? You killed your friend? Trust me - you made the right decision." This appears to be the only other line mentioning this earlier idea.
  • All of the potential victims completely resist poison if the player reverse-pickpockets some onto them, so they must be killed using either a weapon or spell.
  • If the player chooses to kill Astrid, any or all of the three captives can be untied and released after Astrid's death. Fultheim the Fearless will be grateful: Alea Quintus will upbraid you as if you were her kidnapper, even though you're not: and Vasha will merely promise that he won't set his associates on murdering you.
  • Conversely, if the player kills a captive first, Astrid becomes "essential" and unkillable, so it is impossible to kill her to get the Abandoned Shack key off her. She can be knocked down, and will revert to non-hostile (and full health) when she gets up again, so the player can talk to Astrid to be given the key.
  • Also, once one of the captives is killed, the player will never be given the option to release the remaining two - not even after leaving and re-entering the Abandoned Shack: they will remain there, bound and hooded, for all time unless you choose to murder them.
  • If you cast Clairvoyance inside the shack, it will always point to Vasha. This is due to the fact that the Clairvoyance spell will always target the last objective added in any given quest and should not be interpreted to mean that Vasha is the correct choice.
  • Ironically, given that they're already immobilized, all three captives are immune to paralysis effects.


  • Any captives that are spared during the quest remain kneeling with their hood on indefinitely.
  • If you choose to kill Astrid, the captives may simply disappear from the shack without a trace.
  • You may not receive the Mysterious Note after completing Innocence Lost. When encountering a courier, he will simply reply "Nope, sorry. Nothing."
    • Sleep right after finishing the Innocence Lost quest (speaking with Aventus Aretino for the second time). This may trigger the courier's delivery or your awakening inside the shack.
    •   Open the console and type setstage DBEntranceQuest 20. This should add the Mysterious Note to the courier, triggering its delivery and allowing you to continue the quest normally after sleeping.
    •   Open the console and type setstage db02 10 to start the quest. Next, enter the command player.moveto 1BDE8. You will be transported inside the shack and the quest should proceed normally.
  • Once you've killed all the captives, you may not be able to interact with Astrid. She will simply just say "Brother" and you can't start a conversation with her.
    • Reload a save from before she told you to kill one of the captives.
    •  Open the console and type stopquest DarkBrotherhood and hit enter, then type resetquest DarkBrotherhood and hit enter.
  • Sometimes the quest will not start after sleeping.
  •  Upon resting in bed you'll wake up inside the shack and start the dialogue normally, but when prompted to kill one of the captives, the game freezes, and any attempt to use the console or move is useless. Also, teleporting to the shack and manually starting the quest makes the game freeze when you exit the shack or enter any building.
  • After getting the correct answer from Astrid, the Black Door will not provide it in the dialogue options when asking for it, thus preventing the player from entering the Sanctuary.
    •   Open the console and type setpqv DarkBrotherhood BlackDoorPass_var 1. This should add the correct dialogue option. Astrid may not be inside though, you can find her in the Abandoned Shack, and she will have correct dialogue options.

Quest StagesEdit

With Friends Like These... (DB02)
Stage Finishes Quest Journal Entry
10 Astrid, of the Dark Brotherhood, informed me that by killing Grelod the Kind, I have robbed her organization of a kill. I have been taken captive and moved to some remote shack. Astrid will only give me the key if I kill someone she has taken captive, to "repay my debt."
Objective 10: Kill one of the captives
Objective 30: Speak with Astrid
40 I have killed one of the captives as Astrid instructed, and must now gain entrance to the Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary, which is located in the southern Pine Forest. Astrid has provided me with the correct passphrase - "Silence, my Brother."
Objective 40: Enter the Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary
Objective 50: Speak with Astrid
200 Finishes quest  I have killed an innocent person, gained entrance into the Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary, and been officially welcomed into the Dark Brotherhood by Astrid. There's no turning back now.
220 Fails quest  Astrid invited me into the Dark Brotherhood, but I killed her instead. I will now never be able to join the shadowy organization of assassins.
  • The following empty quest stages were omitted from the table: 0, 255.
  • Any text displayed in angle brackets (e.g., <Alias=LocationHold>) is dynamically set by the Radiant Quest system, and will be filled in with the appropriate word(s) when seen in game.
  • Not all Journal Entries may appear in your journal; which entries appear and which entries do not depends on the manner in which the quest is done.
  • Stages are not always in order of progress. This is usually the case with quests that have multiple possible outcomes or quests where certain tasks may be done in any order. Some stages may therefore repeat objectives seen in other stages.
  • If an entry is marked as "Finishes Quest" it means the quest disappears from the Active Quest list, but you may still receive new entries for that quest.
  • On the PC, it is possible to use the console to advance through the quest by entering setstage DB02 stage, where stage is the number of the stage you wish to complete. It is not possible to un-complete (i.e. go back) quest stages, but it is possible to clear all stages of the quest using resetquest DB02.
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