Oblivion talk:Easter Eggs/Archive 8

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Another LOTR reference

There's an enchanted Ebony Cuirass called "Horselord's Cuirass". I believe this refers to Théoden, King of Rohan, who wore a full suit of ebony armor before the Battle at Pelennor in "Return of the King". As well, the people of Rohan's army are said to be the "Horse-lords" of Middle Earth.

I love Lord of the Rings, and to me this seems like an obvious reference to Rohan and Théoden.— Unsigned comment by Swest666 (talk • contribs) at 14:32 on 9 April 2011

If the armor isn't random then I'd agree that its a reference to LotR but if its random then I'd say no.--Raleka 14:34, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The fact that it's random means nothing as to whether its an Easter egg or not. I'm not well-versed in LotR myself, but this definitely looks like an Ester egg if a reference for all of the above facts could be provided (or if anyone else can confirm them). Legoless 15:13, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Link: [1]

If you look at the second paragraph of that page, you will notice the regard as "Horse Lords". I'm not sure if the armor in the film is Ebony, but the Ebony armor itself in-game (without the neck braces) bears a striking resemblance to this. [2]] -Swest666 15:26, 9 April 2011

If remember correctly Ebony was not in Lotr , so I might just be a random thing. JackTurbo95 15:27, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

I can't see it being something completely random. The creators of this game took influence from Lord of the Rings. Mithril and Elven armor are in the game, which are both taken as inspiration from it. Just look at the picture, and see if it bears any resemblance to the Ebony Cuirass. I assure you, if it does to you, this enchanted piece of armor (in the script of the game itself) HAS to be an Egg. Whether it was for a quest or not is beyond my scope of knowledge, but it's in there for a reason. --Swest666 15:33, 9 April 2011

True. I wish Mithril worked the same on here as in Lotr. Anyway , it does bear resemblance , I was never saying no , all I said was maybe. JackTurbo95 15:35, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Okay then. I apologize for my outburst. If it's agreed upon, can we pass it? -Swest666 15:39, 9 April 2011

(edit conflict × 3) I think the name of it and the similarity between ebony and that image is proof enough to include it on the article. The armour itself really is just a random levelled list filler, labelled in the CS as 'EnchEbonyCuirassFortHeavyArmor'. Legoless 15:39, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

No worrys. After thinking about it , I think it should be notable. JackTurbo95 15:45, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

So should I add it? By the way, this discussion is the first post I've made on this wiki. I'm not sure if people are assigned to make posts, or if it's just a D.I.Y. approach. -Swest666 16:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Go for it. Make sure to link to Oblivion:Horselord's Cuirass, and maybe put it beside the other LotR bulletpoints? Legoless 16:13, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

How exactly would I go about doing that? The page is apparently locked. :P -Swest666 16:45, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh come on everybody, it's not an easter egg at all. Lots of those items have names that refer to other items - just above that cuirass is the "Cuirass of the Juggernaut", but that's not an easter egg about Krishna. The name might come from LOTR, but that doesn't make it an Easter Egg. rpeh •T•C•E• 16:23, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Additionally, the it's the Rohirrim that are called "Horse Lords", not an individual, and the shield's name refers to one person (Horselord's cuirass). And there is no similarity between Theoden's armor and Ebony Armor. rpeh •T•C•E• 16:28, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Oops, I've just added it... Should it be removed? I honestly feel that a link between them is present, but as I said I don't know much about LotR. Legoless 16:30, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

If the Rohirrim are Théoden's army, doesn't that make HIM the Horselord? As well, wouldn't it also be fitting to say that if there were a group of them, and each one was a Horselord, either one could wear this? Not to mention that Bethesda could not recreate this armor, but when you look at it from a broader aspect, it does somewhat resemble it. There is no other reference on this Earth's history I can think of that mentions a Horselord wearing gold-trimmed black armor.Swest666 17:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Now you're starting to make stuff up to support this. Nowhere in the books is Theoden referred to as THE Horselord. This is basically the Association Fallacy. Just because "Horse Lords" are mentioned in one place and a "Horselord's Cuirass" in another doesn't mean the two facts are related. rpeh •T•C•E• 16:49, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

(←) I never said Théoden was the Horselord. I simply asked, if they are renowned for being Horse-Lords and he was their king, would it not make him "The" Horse-Lord? If you came from a place where your people were named "The Horse-Lords", and you were the highest regard of those people, what would you be called? As well, I know fully well, and everyone else knows fully well, that Théoden's armor and the Full Ebony Set are not identical. That is because New Line Cinema has a copyright on the costumes from the Lord of the Rings franchise. The best Bethesda could do is create a set of armor with the same color scheme (gold-trimmed dark brown) and call it something else. It's not a silly accusation. I'd like to see you take a stab at how they came up with the name "Horselord's Cuirass" for a set of ornate gold-trimmed dark brown armor. Like I said, no other reference exists. It's in the game for a reason. And certainly that reason can't just be to "Fortify Heavy Armor 9 pts on Self". Anyone can make a piece of armor with that effect. Better, even. It has to be an homage.Swest666 17:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

No it's NOT in the game for a reason!

Are you telling me that the Boots of the Calming Sea are included as an homage to this album?

Is the Monolithic Shield an homage to the standing stones at Stonehenge?

Are the Gauntlets of the Equinox an homage to Jean-Michelle Jarre's second album?

No, no and no. At best it's a reference, like the Gauntlets of the Horker refer to the horkers in Bloodmoon and the Grand Ring of Aegis is a reference to the shield of the Greek goddess Athena.

Even if it's a reference, that does NOT merit inclusion on this page. As I've said before, Easter Eggs have to meet this definition, and this example clearly doesn't. rpeh •T•C•E• 17:15, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

A main reason I thought it would be, is because of this: what does a Horse-lord have to do with great armor and strength? Nothing.

Now that you've called me out on something I thought was legit, I will refrain from all discussion of this topic. If you want to believe that by some sheer coincidence this piece of armor actually makes sense by both name and description (like the water walking boots, shield, and frost shield gauntlets), then I guess it's not worth even talking about. I still believe it makes sense. Swest666 17:58, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

After reading through the books , Theoden is only king of Rohan , nothing else is mentioned that he will be the Horse Lord. I would now say that it shouldn't be added. Like Rpeh has said , it is not an Easter Egg. JackTurbo95 18:40, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

I was walking around and saw a pub called the green dragon I don't know if anyone has seen it but its in the return of the king when merry and pippin are singing. — Unsigned comment by 122.105.135.138 (talk) at 12:56 on May 14, 2011

I'm afraid that there is no location with that name in Oblivion. Either it was mod-related or you simply misread something. --DKong27 ^{Talk Cont} 15:38, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

(←) Anybody notice the direct reference in the first mission in the Dark Brotherhood? The quest is called "A Knife in the Dark". Which is a chapter title from the fellowship of the ring — Unsigned comment by 204.237.100.96 (talk) at 00:33 on 30 November 2011

Heart of Darkness Reference

As I was doing Vaermina's daedric quest, I noticed two crumpled pieces of paper in Arkved's Death Quarters... One of the crumpled notes says simply "The horror... The horror" Which of course is a reference to the Heart of Darkness, especially because of Arkved's corruption. Anyone else notice this? LordZaqq 10:33, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Wouldn't it refer to The Tell-Tale Heart by Edgar Allan Poe?Obliviongamer 19:45, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't refer to anything. That's a common phrase. --Legoless 21:36, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Revamp

I Am Planning A Project for a complete revamp of the Easter eggs page what do you guys think--candc4 — Unsigned comment by Candc4 (talk • contribs) at 17:41 on 5 May 2011‎

It would help if you explained what you planned on doing to revamp it... Don't assume we know what you are talking about, because I have no clue what you mean. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 17:54, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Putting Each Subjects into its on page--Candc4 18:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Why would we need to? This page isn't that long? I see no reason to split up this info. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 18:08, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. It's nowhere near long enough for that. rpeh •T•C•E• 18:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Shady Sam's Brother/Glitch in Brina Cross.

there no mention of it in Sam's section or even Brina Cross section. I can't for the life of me remember the guy's name although its definitely not Sam in different clothes and that he came all the way from imperial city to peddle his skooma in BC. he has the same line as him "piss piss hey you yeah you" Line. ironically I can't find him any where online. — Unsigned comment by 184.58.153.201 (talk) at 21:43 on May 7, 2011

It sounds like you may mean Rowley_Eardwulf, who is in the Wawnet Inn. He is the merchant from the Vile Lair plug-in. He has some of the same merchant lines, such as calling the player over and such, mentioned on his page. --DKong27 ^{Talk Cont} 02:50, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

wait I have the Ps3 Goty edition.

which don't have vile lair at all, thanks by the way for mentioning him that the guy although what he's doing in BC is beyond me, really. — Unsigned comment by 184.58.153.201 (talk) at 03:01 on 8 May 2011

Mythic Dawn Reference?

Does anyone think the Mythic dawn may be a reference to Alister Crowley's Golden Dawn? They have fairly similar emblems and looking on wiki there are certainly similarities with them being a magical/philosophical group and the mention of travelling through astral planes reminded me of the 'paradise', it was just a random thought and wondered if anybody else had thought the same (although i suppose the golden dawn and Crowley aren't very commonplace names these days). Either way, maybe have a look at [3] and see what you think. Hubertus Beetonis 14:03, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

I suppose if you looked at it enough you might see similarities, but there is not really any strong proof toward a reference. It could be of course, I'm no dev, but it's just not clear. --DKong27 ^{Talk Cont} 15:36, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Removed from Hermaeus Mora lore page

"Apocrypha is Greek for hidden-things."

Thought it might be more appropriate here. Still, I don't know if it's really an "easter egg," so to speak. Minor Edits 00:11, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Eilonwy

Eilonwy is a character introduced in The Book of Three from Lloyd Alexander's Chronicles of Prydain series of books and the Disney film adaptation The Black Cauldron. It is not a traditional Welsh name but one that Alexander created. This was on the talk page a few years ago and Elliot archived it 21 June 2009. The main page is locked for me; can someone with permission add it? - Brightlancer 16:42, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

"Of Mice and Men" Reference?

In the Dark Brotherhood, when you ask Telaendril about 'Rumors', she chats about Gogron once having a pet rabbit that he pet too hard and killed. I forget the name of the character in the book, but doesn't this relate to when the big guy kills the puppy when they're on the 'dude ranch'? — Unsigned comment by 71.196.208.66 (talk) on 16 June 2011

Please read the article, specifically the "Literature" section. --SerCenKing ^Talk 08:23, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Oops, I guess I missed reading that part :-P At least I got the reference right. — Unsigned comment by 71.196.208.66 (talk) at 02:30 on 14 July 2011

An easter egg not added

There is a cave called lost boy cavern filled with vampires, (movie reference lost boys). NE of Peryrite's shrine. — Unsigned comment by 24.21.242.92 (talk) at 03:12 on 26 June 2011‎

Boethiah thing?

That "alas, poor orc" thing is too vague to be definitively labeled as a reference to something on this page. I suggest it be removed until a reliable citation can be given. 71.251.138.109 14:30, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

I think this one's fairly clear: "Alas poor Orc" vs "Alas poor Yorick". Orc and Yorick are similar enough in sound to be intentional. The Churchill bit... less so. rpeh •T•C•E• 14:51, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

That's what I meant, the first bit is one thing, but the second is a stretch. 205.133.160.180 18:21, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Easter Egg I stumbled on while watching a friend play

There is also a Reference, in one of the Mage's Guild's where you overhear two Mage NPC's talking and one says something about someone and the other guy says "I never understood a single word he said, but I helped him drink his wine, and he always has some mighty fine wine." Which is a reference to Three Dog Night's "Joy to the World". ```` — Unsigned comment by 72.184.126.226 (talk) at 02:55 on 14 July 2011‎

Ayleid Well With Blue Map Marker

At the I in the words The Nibenay Valley there is an Ayleid Well with a blue map marker on it. I was exploring and just stumbled upon it. The blue map marker is on the little ring base thing on the bottom of the well. If you look you should see it. Is this on every Ayleid Well? Is it a glitch? I know I've never put a blue map marker on my map at that spot. Sorry, I just made my account so that I could ask this, so I'm very new to this. Is this how you sign it? I'm not sure. Sir Mandorallen 15:36, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

You must have added the map marker yourself by mistake. --Legoless 17:29, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I should have been more clear, the marker isn't on the map, it is seemingly painted onto the Ayleid Well. Sir Mandorallen 23:37, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Typo to fix

In the references of the page, it should be 'The Black Hand (...)' and not 'Tha Black Hand (...)'. Someone else will have to fix it since the page is protected. Thankie! Kharn 13:28, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Done --Legoless 13:32, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Black Hand?

This sounds like a coincidence. Other than being a group of assassins, what links does the faction have to the real-world organisation? "Black Hand" is a pretty standard name. --Legoless 20:47, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

not sure how relivent this is but theres all so a black hand on command and conqure within the brotherhood of nodThe sorrow 21:14, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

I think it is pretty obvious. The Black Hand is not some little faction in a game; it is the group of people that sparked World War 1. Saying it is just mere coincidence is naive. Elliot (talk) 22:25, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

See this disambig page. It is anything but naive to assume coincidence. Are all of those groups, fictional and real, a nod to the Serbain secret society? I doubt it. --Legoless 11:08, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Boromir?

Shouldn't the bit about the Boromir reference be removed? If I recall, it was decided that the bits about NPCs named after dewey decimal, Princess Bride characters, etc. should be omitted because they were found in the testinghall, which could only be accessed through the console. Since it admits in the entry that the Boromir NPC is found in the toddtest area (also only reachable via console), shouldn't it be omitted for the same reason? 205.133.160.180 18:27, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

I've removed it, since nobody has voiced any opposition. ThuumofReason 17:26, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

I feel like this page needs a disclaimer of some sort

Something at the top of the page saying that you need more than similar sounding names to constitute a reference. And maybe a list of things that have already been decided numerous times to not constitute an entry, ex. the Gray Fox being based on so and so famous person or pretty much anything having to do with LOTR. Just something to let people know that you can't propose something without good reason to believe it's intentional.205.133.160.180 18:34, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

People very often just add things without thinking about it, this means they will just click 'edit' because it is the eureka moment. And if they bring it up here, it is much easier for a Patroller or Admin to say no and why or point them in the right direction. They might think the circumstance has changed and therefore it needs reviewing in which case a list of past cases might just put them off. --KizC ^{·•· Talk ·•· Contribs ·•· Mail ·•·} 18:51, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

I was under the impression that an ester egg is a joke hidden in the game with no refrence to it or its location? So why when reading the article it say "in _______ quest" shouldnt they be marked as refrences as you do in morrowind? Thank youFroggy™ 08:19, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Battlehorn Castle: Numbskin Mead = Easter egg?

I've only just noticed that the label for the Numbskin Mead from the Battlehorn Castle DLC reads 'Ice Nerveshatter'. I am of the opinion that this may be an Easter egg, as British industrial metal band Godflesh named one of their songs 'Ice Nerveshatter' on their self-titled album. I know that this 'bug' is fixed by the Unofficial Official Mod Patch.

The song in question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbhxiS99fR8

Would this be considered an Easter egg? Even if it was originally the name of a rejected beverage, it still got through Q&A when the DLC was being released, which is telling.

Thanks, TehBluebear 14:24, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

In addition, there is also the weapon gained in Shivering Isles at the end of The Roots of Madness, Nerveshatter. However, this is more of a tenuous connection than the one I've highlighted above.

Do both of these qualify as easter eggs, or simply references? TehBluebear 00:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

They don't qualify as anything. As stated many times above; an easter egg must be brutally obvious and/or contain more than one mention of the referenced media in question to be considered as such. 66.183.235.215 07:05, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Another Steven Seagal reference?

In Leyawiin I spoke to Weebam-Na at one point. He talked about all the rats, and how a guy opened a restaurant serving all sorts of rat cuisine. He mentioned something about a dish containing powdered deer penis. I think this is a reference to "Glimmer Man" where Steven Seagal's character gets his partner to eat powdered deer penis while in a Asian medicine shop. The joke continues a few times later in the movie as well. — Unsigned comment by 75.68.127.122 (talk) at 13:07 on 24 October 2011‎

Powdered deer penis is a legitimate Chinese alternative medicine. While I immediately thought of Glimmer Man when I first heard the dialog as well, there's nothing to suggest that it's a Steven Seagal reference and not just a reference to a humorous foreign medicine. --GK^talk2me 13:29, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm not creating an account and the page is semi-protected

Would somebody mind adding links to the other Easter Egg pages? — Unsigned comment by 74.74.131.246 (talk) at 18:55 on 27 November 2011‎

No, those don't belong on this page. If you want to find the other Easter Eggs pages just Search Skyrim: Easter Eggs or Morrowind: Easter Eggs.--^Corevette₇₈₉ 18:57, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

All of the other pages have links to the other Easter Egg pages, this page is the odd one out. Though it seems Shivering Isles has been left out of the links. — Unsigned comment by 74.74.131.246 (talk) at 20:01 on 27 November 2011‎

He's right about that; I had to decide whether to put links to other egg pages on the Skyrim page, and went with the majority rule. The links do serve some practical purpose; users who are looking for some context on what qualifies as an egg may wish to peruse the other egg pages and their talk archives. Minor Edits 20:08, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Nietzsche Reference

The skill book "The Doors of Oblivion" is prefaced by a quotation. The preface quote by Nai Tyrol-Llar - 'When thou enterest into Oblivion, Oblivion entereth into thee.' - is very similar to (and likely a reference to) a quotation by Friedrich Nietzsche, "Wer mit Ungeheuern kämpft, mag zusehn, dass er nicht dabei zum Ungeheuer wird. Und wenn du lange in einen Abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein. [He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.]" I've posted this to the talk page for the book, but it may also belong here. RUSTY 21:59, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Saint Patrick Refrence

"On rare occasion NPCs may be overheard discussing the acts of "Saint Jiub", who drove the Cliff Racers away from portions of Morrowind." when i read this on the historical refrences page it reminded me about the tale of st.patrick driving the snakes from Ireland.--Tommythompson364 20:28, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Not really that noteable, St.Patrick didn't even chase away the snakes from Ireland, we never had snakes in Ireland because it's way to cold and wet:)RIM 20:33, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

I knew it was an old tale, but are there seriously no snakes there? I should move there lol. Little buggers terrify me. But I personally believe it is an Easter Egg. It is incredibly similar to me. His Immortal Majesty, Eric Snowmane 20:36, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Might want to reconsider, last winter it was -20 C. Anyway, I guess a note on it would be fine.RIM 20:38, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Princess Bride reference - NOT from the testingarea

I've noticed this line each time I've played through Oblivion, but it just struck me where it is from.

In the Thieves' Guild quest 'Taking Care of Lex', you are introduced to The Stranger - the NPC who forges the orders to boot Lex from the IC. In his conversation tree, you can ask him 'Who are you?' And his reply is 'I am the Stranger. That is all you need to know. That, and I am no one to be trifled with.'

This is basically a verbatim quote from The Princess Bride, from the scene where Westley, as the Dread Pirate Roberts, defeats Vizzini in the Battle of wits. Buttercup's first line to him is 'Who are you?' - his response is 'I am no one to be trifled with. That is all you ever need know.'

This may have been mentioned in the past, unsure though, as there are a few years worth of archives to sift thru... So yeah. — Unsigned comment by 74.82.68.144 (talk) at 04:12 on December 15, 2011

I have seen this as well every time I have played through Oblivion. Makes me laugh every time because I have always forgotten it by he time I see it again. Surprised it has not made it onto the actual Easter egg page yet. The only thing better would be a quest involving a game of wits against a short, bald character with DEATH ON THE LINE!! :-) Unsigned comment by 63.224.181.175 01:28, 26 September 2012 (GMT)

Through a Nightmare, Darkly

The page claims that this quest title is likely a reference from the Christian Bible, but that may be secondary. The reference is more likely to Sheridan LeFanu's popular Victorian horror story, titled with the deliberate change, "In a Glass Darkly." — Unsigned comment by Powerpear (talk • contribs) on December 29, 2011 12:41

I disagree - my first thought on seeing the title "Through a Nightmare, Darkly" was the science fiction novel A Scanner Darkly by Philip K. Dick. The book deals with drug culture and undercover operatives, and the main character's addiction to a drug called Substance D prevents the two hemispheres of his brain from communicating and makes him forget his real life as a detective. In the quest's dreamworld, Henantier is more or less fighting against his own mind. Additionally, he has lost elements of his mind that you have to retrieve through the four challenges. That's why I think this is a more likely reference, although all three of the suggested Easter Eggs derive from the Biblical phrase "Through a glass darkly." 71.175.54.251 18:16, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Boreal

I was checking up on the Easter Eggs in Oblivion, and I didn't see one that I thought I should point out:

During my last playthrough, I fought off a bandit wielding a fairly powerful Glass Claymore which I later discovered was called "Boreal". At first I thought this was a unique item, but I have since discovered it again. I looked it up on this Wiki's Oblivion Item list, and discovered the reference to Boreas, the Greek God of the cold north wind.

I think it is much more likely that this is a direct pull of the name of a sword from the Tiger and Del series of books by Jennifer Roberson. In these books, Del wields a sword named "Boreal", which when sung to calls up the cold winds of the north. --98.212.129.80 06:42, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't know if this is an Easter Egg

North of the Imperial City is a town called Aleswel (or something similar) which sounds like "all is well". This seems ironic because when you go there and wait a couple of hours someone invisible approaches and tells you that some wizard turned the whole towns population invisible. — Unsigned comment by 122.105.104.6 (talk) at 22:55 on 9 June 2012

While it might be ironic, it's not clearly an easter egg. – Robin Hood↝talk 23:00, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The Cliffracer Song

Might sound kinda silly, and I don't know if it qualifies as an Easter Egg, but I recall this drunk Dark Elf called Aldos Othran singing about Cliff Racers. Might be a nod to the fact that they aren't present in Oblivion. — Unsigned comment by 89.153.231.133 (talk) at 21:49 on 10 August 2012 (UTC)

While the song is fairly funny, it is not an easter egg. The song is about a creature established to be in the Elder Scrolls universe and he sings that song an obnoxious number of times, making it not particularly well hidden. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 21:49, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

"Joy to the World" Reference

The dialogue about Gaston Surilie's wine that contains this reference is actually part of the SkingradNQDResponses conversation topic and can be spoken by several characters in the town, including Vigge the Cautious, not just Shum gro-Yarug. — Unsigned comment by 65.8.119.230 (talk) at 15:37 on 9 September 2012

The main questline....an entire refernce to H.P Lovecraft.

Although the quest, A Shadow Over Hackdirt is a refernce to Lovecraft's writing, I picked up on a small goodie reading through some old Lovecraft stuff. The game itself, named Oblivion, is a reference to the Lovecraft poem, written in prose, called Ex Oblivione. Another work by him which may have inspired the Mythic Dawn Cult, is the non-fiction work In Defense Of Dagon which has an statement, (There is nothing better than oblivion, since in oblivion there is no wish unfulfilled), which is very similar to one expressed by Mankar Camoran, although it does escape me. — Unsigned comment by 173.25.148.118 (talk) at 02:19 on 2 October 2012‎

I don't know about the name of the game being a reference. The term "Oblivion" has been used since before TES IV to represent the Daedric lands. I would want to shoot that down as a reference. As for the rest. I haven't got enough knowledge to say anything. Eric Snowmane^{(talk•email)} 03:16, 2 October 2012 (GMT)

It's very possible that the entire main quest is loosely based on Lovecraft's works, as his are some of the most famous tails of otherworldly abominations (similar to the daedra) royally fucking up life as humanity knows it. I wouldn't call it an easter egg, or anything worth mentioning, as most stories involving things like this can be traced back to Lovecraft. It's quite blatant that most of the Daedric Princes are caricatures of some Lovecraftian aspect.68.1.112.49 17:45, 11 November 2012 (GMT)

Yinz'r the Pirate

I humbly submit that he's probly more of a Stihlers fan, but that's a 'Burgh lizard if I've ever seen one. Now, whether he's an egg or an in-joke is up to the rest of yinz to figure out. — Unsigned comment by 4.49.117.146 (talk) at 22:32 on 25 October 2012

Actually, the onus is on the submitter to suggest why something is an egg. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 22:38, 25 October 2012 (GMT)

Jak and Daxter and other games easter egg?

There is a guy named Jak Silver in Oblivion, just wondering if maybe they got his name from Jak from Jak and Daxter — Unsigned comment by 74.105.116.115 (talk) at 19:53 on 29 October 2012

An alternate spelling of a common name is not indicative of a reference. I see nothing relating them, since Jak isn't a pirate (and doesn't really talk, so why would he be a speechcraft trainer?). Plus, based on Jak's ears, a reference to him would likely be a Bosmer. It's just a different spelling. Vely^►t►e 20:05, 29 October 2012 (GMT)

Another LotR Reference

Another Lord of the Rings reference. You'll sometimes hear a rumor about Parwen and Al-Malz. ""Parwen has really got a thing for goblins. I think she and Ah-Malz keep a running tally of who has killed more." Referencing Gimli and Legolas's running tally throughout the movies.

Anubisraven (talk) 06:41, 25 November 2012 (GMT)

Horror of Dive Rock

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There is a 70s serial called the Horror of Fang Rock, which involves a ghoulish evil figure as the enemy similar to the ememy in Oblivion, could be unrelated but would be quite a coinsidence— Unsigned comment by 90.195.143.100 (talk) at 22:56 on 17 December 2012 (GMT)

That would be quite a far out reference. While I'm as much of a fan of Doctor Who as the next American (it's one of the stranger obsessions imported from the UK), this is far too obscure with far too little in common for me to support it. Looking over a summary of the plot, I see virtually no similarity in terms of plots, characters, locations, and the creatures. The only things really bringing them together are the names, which aren't truly that similar once you think about it.

When looking at Easter Eggs, it's always best to remember to not look for them, but wait for them to be found over natural exploration. If you would instantly connect it and if it holds up to scrutiny after deeper consideration, it's probably an Easter Egg. If you have to start out thinking about it in-depth, you'll find references everywhere simply because there is not a unique trope or idea under the sun. To make this work, there would have to be something concrete connecting it to Doctor Who, like finding the Fourth Doctor's outfit at Dive Rock. As I see nothing like that that truly clenches it as an Easter Egg, I'd call it false. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 00:25, 18 December 2012 (GMT)

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