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Lore talk:Frandar Hunding

The Book of CirclesEdit

The Book of Circles may be an allusion to The Book of Five Rings, an actual book written by historical Japanese swordsman Miyamoto Musashi, famed as the victor of dozens of duels from an early age. He wrote the book late in his life as a practical guide to combat, and is still prized today among martial artists and even businessmen.

Hunding himself may be a tribute to Musashi, who was also an acclaimed duelist in his youth, and subject of many films, video games and serial dramas in modern times. Hunding is mentioned to have been a duelist until the age of thirty, which happens to be the age Musashi was believed to have his most significant duel. After this, Musashi continued the Way of the Sword, but no longer killed his opponents, preferring civilised bouts with wooden swords to demonstrate his technique. Musashi eventually settled down and lived on a lord's estate later in life, but retired to a mountaintop shrine in his final years to write and meditate. Hunding's time as a hermit after thirty may be a subtle nod to Musashi as well. The Redguards' reverence of Hunding is not unlike Musashi's popularity in Japan even centuries after his death (perhas most notably having an Imperial Battleship from WW2 named in his honor). Schools that teach his style, Niten Ichi-Ryu, still exist today.— Unsigned comment by Alandro Sul (talkcontribs) at 15:58 on 10 March 2013

You have a strong case, if that's all accurate. Normally I'd direct you to an easter egg page, but Frandar Hunding and the Book of Circles first came up in Daggerfall, which does not have an easter egg page. In light of that, I wouldn't be opposed to a note on this page briefly highlighting the significant similarities to Musashi. Minor EditsThreatsEvidence 02:39, 19 March 2013 (GMT)

Something has gotten screwed up hereEdit

The note on the page is all jumbled and out of order. I looked at the page, but I can't see what's wrong. Never seen anything like it. Minor EditsThreatsEvidence 01:47, 16 February 2014 (GMT)

It's the newly incorporated multiple columns for references. Notes were under discussion on how to manage, but I can't see if there was a settlement. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 02:00, 16 February 2014 (GMT)
The discussion was here. I believe we agreed to use the {{intnote}} and {{LNote}} templates to replace the use of note 'references', as I have done here and here. I will continue to do so as I come across the old usage. -- Hargrimm(T) 02:26, 16 February 2014 (GMT)


Anyone else realize that the quote, "Be resolute, fear no sacrifice and surmount every difficulty to win victory." is literally from Mao Zedong? I guess Bethesda has a couple of commies in their midst... :) — 15:37, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

I agree. If the Redguard namespace had an Easter Eggs or Cultura Reference section, it would have gone stright there. It is after all there the quote is used. Same as with the namespaces of the other first games, there is not yet any such. I do not really know where to note it. —MortenOSlash (talk) 17:31, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
I'd also like to add that "Political power grows along the blade of a sword." is also a rephrased quote by Mao Zedong, while "War is the continuation of politics." is by von Clausewitz. Not sure there's enough of these references in TESA: Redguard to warrant its own page, but an article that contains references from all the early games might be worth it. Alternatively, since all three quotes come from Tobias, we could put a note on his page in the Redguard namespace. -- Kertaw48 (talk) 19:25, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
The quote is also on an ESO stolen item, so it can be added to that namespace page ( --Jimeee (talk) 11:06, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Year of birthEdit

I think that the article is wrong in saying he was born in 1E720. The source for that states that Divad Hunding, his son, was born in 1E720, not him. Eldubya (talk) 22:14, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Never mind, I am too tired. Misread. Eldubya (talk) 22:27, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
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