User talk:Wrye/2006-10

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Thanks for the help with the import. How'd you convert it? Need to know so I can be sure that once I sort it and move to the correct location on here.



Here's what I did. You'll have to adapt to your own tools though...
  • Open Star Office 5.2 and create a new blank html doc.
  • Copy html table from old site and paste it into blank html doc.
  • Insert a new column at the beginning of the table in star office. Fill all of the cells of that column with the text 'xxx'.
  • Copy the table from star office to a blank text document in Edit+ (a full featured plain text editor). Result is plain text with each column entry on a separate line, but 'xxx' marks the beginning of the row.
  • Use a regex replace all to insert a "|" at the beginning of every line.
  • replace |xxx with |-
  • replace "| " with "| " (These were the blank lines for blank columns.)
  • manually fix the beginning and end of the table, using the trainers page for guidance.
  • paste into wiki
Of course, you don't have same set of tools that I do, but you might be able to use similar tools. E.g., instead of star office, use another html editor, or maybe microsoft excel. Instead of editplus, use another text editor, or maybe even ms word.
--Wrye 14:27, 30 March 2006 (EST)
Dude, it's all about the vi. Peerless 14:29, 30 March 2006 (EST)}}
I'd argue with you, but I just uninstalled emacs a couple of days ago, thus totally blowing whatever CLI cred I had left. :lol: --Wrye 14:33, 30 March 2006 (EST)
You totally blew any cred when you suggested using an HTML editor ^^/ Peerless 14:35, 30 March 2006 (EST)}}
True! But, I gained Rube Goldberg points for chaining two editors and that screwy xxx step. :) --Wrye 14:39, 30 March 2006 (EST)
Get this: our wiki sites are actually running out of a database. There is only a single file in a single folder for the FTP - the entire network is running off of the database ( ). So, we have mediawiki running from a database supplied my mediawiki which is running off of mediawiki running off of mediawiki off of mediawiki off of mediawiki... and so on. Peerless 14:43, 30 March 2006 (EST)}}
[Bows in humility, and surrenders tiny pretense at Goldbergian achievement in the face of such insane, tail chasing complexity.]--Wrye 14:53, 30 March 2006 (EST)

Clarification of scan objection?[edit]

As you may have noticed I've been updating the Tamriel region pages with maps from the Codex. However Solstheim (and Mournhold for that matter) aren't shown in the Codex. I'm just wondering about what you said regarding scans. Is it high resolution that Beth objects to, or scans of any kind (regardless of resolution)? What I'd be using would be page-resolution only (in the region of 300-400px depending on place name readability). If it's absolutely not OK I'll go with ingame maps. I'm just wanting to get the all-clear. :) Garrett 07:44, 2 April 2006 (EDT)

All I know is what I heard from Dave User_talk:Daveh#Crumb_Trails. If think that if it's big enough to actually be usable as a map (which would be the point of course), then Bethesda would object. --Wrye 20:09, 2 April 2006 (EDT)
Ah, just as I thought. Well then, I'll see what I can do. Thanks! Garrett 23:03, 2 April 2006 (EDT)

Spoiler Show/Hide[edit]

Endareth suggested that quest spoilers be toggleable so both quest writeup styles can be used simultaneously. This CSS will make it possible. Garrett 20:12, 19 April 2006 (EDT)

Okay, added it in. Hope it works.... --Wrye 22:27, 19 April 2006 (EDT)
I forgot the JS! MediaWiki talk:common.js. Garrett 00:02, 20 April 2006 (EDT)
Done. If Monobook crashes for everyone, I'm blaming you. --Wrye 00:23, 20 April 2006 (EDT)

Oblivion Modding Trail[edit]

Why did you remove the margin? I specifically added that because all of the TOCs on the pages are directly smack up against that modding trail thing and it looks bad. --Rick 12:23, 20 April 2006 (EDT)

The crumb trails are pretty standardized by this point. If you want to top/bottom spacing or anything else about the standard, you'll need to discuss it first on the UESPWiki Talk:Style Guide and be ready to go tweak all of the other styles to meet the new template if your suggested change wins. There have already been a couple of discussions on vertical spacing, and the decision has been to keep the current vertical spacing. Part of the consideration is that folks with smaller monitors (e.g., me, Endareth, I think) don't like useless extra vertical spacing. The TOC question has been already been discussed in particular, and decision was no space between toc and crumb trail.--Wrye 12:25, 20 April 2006 (EDT)

Mod File Format[edit]

Just wondering if you have any plans for updating the mod file format page in the near future? I would like to transfer some of the info on my page over on the records/subrecords I've worked on and clean it up a bit. In terms of style, is the format used on my page fine (will change the tables to the new style everyone is using)? If you have plans for it I'll just wait as there's no hurry. -- DaveH 12:43, 20 April 2006 (EDT)

I'm in the middle of doing that. Check out Tes4Mod:Mod File Format/NPC and Tes4Mod:Mod File Format/TES4. I'm still working on those, then I'll finish up the main page and unprotect it. I'll get all that done sometime today. --Wrye 13:54, 20 April 2006 (EDT)
Looks good. Are we putting each record on its own page? If so I can start pages with the same format as your NPC/TES4 using information from my page...depending on what records you have data about. -- DaveH 15:07, 20 April 2006 (EDT)
Just got back... I'm still working on table layout and conventions a little bit. Let me finish that up before you start adding stuff. --Wrye 16:37, 20 April 2006 (EDT)
Okay, I think that I've got the format straight. Take a look and let me know what you think. I'll update the conventions page to reflect new conventions. And I'll take or main page soon. --Wrye 18:07, 20 April 2006 (EDT)
Everything's done and page is open. Feel free... --Wrye 02:29, 21 April 2006 (EDT)

Main Page disaster[edit]

Too bold, Garrett, TOO BOLD. Like the whole freaking front page is VERY, VERY, BOLD! And you're supposed to be our resident wiki expert! What's up with that?? Cheers, :) --Wrye 00:44, 21 April 2006 (EDT)

Crap. It looked fine in Firefox. Trust IE to kick up a fuss, even the grey headers don't display like they should (every news item has a grey header, but IE only displays the first). I've reverted it for now. Later today I'll change those deprecated tags into a proper template which should hopefully solve both display issues. MediaWiki has a whole CSS stylesheet just for IE workarounds, but they obviously never came across THIS one. :) GarrettTalk


It appears this script function overruns the misc stat memory area (I found this hint at TESCSWiki:GetPCMiscStat). It doesn't seem to be overrunning into the same structure as the save file (from some quick tests), but perhaps you know someone who can find the misc stats in memory and do a simple test to see if the results are predictable. I gave it a brief whirl with Visual Studio, but the memory editor didn't seem to have a Find function. If you pointed me to some software that would work, I could do it. The goal would be to determine if it is possible to supply this function with certain indexes in order to get at statistics that might be normally inaccessible to scripters (like skill usage counters).
Thanks, --Thehankerchief 05:04, 15 May 2006 (EDT)

I don't have any experience with debugging memory. Rick would be the one to ask, but he hasn't been active for several weeks. You might try irc and see if he's online. Also, you might try ResetGun. --Wrye 20:27, 15 May 2006 (EDT)
Thanks, will do.--Thehankerchief 22:10, 15 May 2006 (EDT)

No Cookies, Please[edit]

Cookies? No thanks! Template wildness gone too, too far. Too cute. Besides, I don't even like chocolate chip. So... No cookies please. Thank you. (Gotta maintain my cantakerous rep.) --Wrye 20:39, 20 June 2006 (EDT)

Aristeo takes Wrye's cookie and puts it in his cookie jar. >:D --Aristeo 08:01, 28 July 2006 (EDT)

User Page Editing[edit]

Just to make sure you saw it, I have responded to the message you left on my talk page, and I also called in for a third opinion. Please keep the conversation on my talk page, as I won't be monitoring yours. Thanks! --Aristeo 18:56, 31 August 2006 (EDT)