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Lore talk:Flora

Include IngredientsEdit

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The main Flora page could list links to the lists of ingredients for the seperate games, which would show a greater distinction between flora and ingredients for newcomers. Neural Tempest 03:29, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

I would like to suggest that the actual geographic area be listed with corresponding flora, Alkanet appears to be indigenous to the plane of Oblivion when it is indigenous to Cyrodiil. There are a great number of examples like this. Thoughthorder 14:25, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

More elaborate background information approach...Edit

I thought about this a short while ago and thanks to the recently added Jarrin Root (which I'm not entirely sure meets the guidelines considering that it is only part of a plant, btw) I decided to come forward with the proposal to divide the place of origin into "appeared in: [game title]" and "native to: [province(s) we are certain it grows in by nature]". Thoughts of the community? -Shimenawa (talk) 09:48, 30 November 2012 (GMT)

No I think the current format is fine, as it is set up in the same basic way as Bestiary. Any change to the template here would likely require matching alterations to dozens of other listings through both Lore and Game articles which would be far more work then the slight additional information would be worth. As for Jarrin Root I'll leave that up to the Loremasters to figure out Lord Eydvar Talk|Contribs 10:15, 30 November 2012 (GMT)
I think the current format works well. Any lore-relevant information should be included in the plant's description (i.e., where it grows). Jarrin Root is a bit iffy, but unlike, say, oranges, there is evidence to support the actual plant's existence (Astrid's dialogue), so I agree with keeping it. Adding a new "place" section would also be largely redundant, since most plants from Skyrim grow in Skyrim, etc. However, changing "found in" to "appeared in" would be a good idea, since it's apparently a source of confusion (see the above section). —Legoless (talk) 14:25, 1 December 2012 (GMT)
How it is currently is fine, and I don't believe that a change from "found in" to "appeared in" is required, as in my opinion, the distinction between the province "Skyrim" and the game "Skyrim" is clear, especially as in most, if not all the descriptions of the flora include the location it grows in, and often enough that includes the province. I believe the same distinction is clear in other areas such as the Bestiary page where it says "found in" instead of "appeared in". The note about Jarrin Root is disputed because of the guidelines set down, but I believe that if the ingredient has a mentioned source of which it grows (to avoid garlic clusters from being added) then it warrants a mention, even if the mentioned source is not a book as lain down in the guidelines. - Emoboy64 15:38, 1 December 2012 (GMT)

adding linksEdit

Should I add ESO links to flora like saltrice even though you only get them from containers and not in the wild? Lorenut (talk) 18:06, 22 May 2014 (GMT)

Not if the flowers is absent, only to the Alchemy section. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 18:27, 22 May 2014 (GMT)
Thanks for answering then can you partially undo the link to saltrice I added Lorenut (talk) 18:29, 22 May 2014 (GMT)

Flora by ProvinceEdit

Is there any chance I can create a Flora by Province page? the current structure works for a general overview but say if a person is only interested in learning what flora of morrowind or what is in oblivion planes they will have to sort out all plant types in this page. Examples of flora pages are Morrowind Flora, Cyrodil Flora, Clockwork City Flora, High Rock Flora

Similarly, a Fauna by province seems interesting and the lore page for say Lore:Morrowind wont be able to fit all the fauna and possible flora into their paragraphs Zebendal (talk) 02:39, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Every province page has a section on flora and fauna, and each region page should have it too, and it should be restricted to unique flora. Creating a page on all the flora in each province is going to cause an awful lot of duplication, as there is easily 70% shared plant-life with at least the neighbouring provinces. It isn't beneficial to list all flora found in a province, because there is nothing interesting about knowing that nirnroot can grow in every single province, and many plants have simply been absent from previous games because there was no use for them in those games, and many plants continue to be absent even though their produce can be found (such as apples appearing but no apple trees). Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 18:10, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
I can agree on a unique plants only page. For morrowind for example I can list bat blooms, netch cabbage, lavaburst, autumn and jester cherry blossoms, emperor parasols, and a whole lot of unique plants that are exclusive to those regions. Shared plants would be to much clutterZebendal (talk) 19:28, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
I don't really see any value in dividing by province. The alphabetical listings are sufficient; dividing by province would result in huge pages with far too much duplication. —Legoless (talk) 11:34, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Synonymous Plants?Edit

In the real world, Belladonna (appearing in Bloodmoon) and Nightshade (appearing from Oblivion on) are the same plant (or more precisely, Atropa Belladonna belongs to the family Solanaceae, the Nightshades, and the appearance of the plants in game is very reminiscent of the Belladonna plant, espescially in ESO). Similarly, in the real world, Wolfsbane (appearing in Bloodmoon) and Monkshood (appearing in Oblivion) are just two names for the same genus of plants, Aconitum.

Do we have any confirmation one way or the other whether those plants are also the same in Tamriel? Even if not, would you consider this fact notable enough to mention in the plant descriptions?

141.30.126.183 08:50, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

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