Lore talk:Merethic Era

Info from TILEdit

I got this information from the The Imperial Library, but didn't have time to reword it. Can someone do this please. — Unsigned comment by 70.18.1.246 (talk)

ProblemEdit

I have a problem: Here the first Era starts with King Harald who dies in 1E 221, but this is quite different to what is written here... --84.145.233.146 15:14, 1 March 2008 (EST)

That's when history is first recorded, but not when the First Era began. History was recorded, for exaple, long before Jesus was born, but AD didn't began until then. The people who made the Tamriel calender decided to count the formation of the Camoran Dynasty as the start of the First Era rather than King Harald's birth or whatever. Michaeldsuarez (talk· contribs· email) 22:15, 9 March 2008 (EDT)

History could be recorded when time became linear, when it "began." And that point is the landing/creation of the first Tower. — Unsigned comment by 24.31.156.165 (talk)

I won't deny that there was history then; however, there wasn't anybody there (other than the gods) to record it. --Michaeldsuarez ^{(Talk)/(Contribs)} 21:27, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

The creation of the first Tower marks the end of the Dawn Era, thus the beginning of the Merethic/Mythic — Unsigned comment by 24.31.156.165 (talk)

Yes, sources seem to indicate that the Tower's creation marks the end of the Dawn Era and the beginning of the Merethic Era. Perhaps this article should be divided into the Dawn Era and the Merethic Era. --Michaeldsuarez ^{(Talk)/(Contribs)} 21:42, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Hold the phone: The bits about Nirni and Anu and Padomay should be in the Dawn Era, not the Merethic. In fact they shouldn't be in any era at all, they aren't literal truth, and their presence here is incredibly misleading. — Unsigned comment by 24.31.156.165 (talk)

Twelve Worlds of Creation?Edit

I have two "issues" here...

1. What are the Twelve Worlds of Creation? I tried to look them up, I got nothing. Would there be more info at the Imperial Library? 2. Someone mentioned that the events involving Anu, Padomay, and Nir should belong in the Dawn Era. Perhaps we should create a page for this? From what I could tell, there is no Dawn Era page. Thoughts? EDIT: Perhaps adding a note about how there was no one there to record the events besides the gods themselves.

It is allegory, rather than literal truth. The worlds of creation refer to the many et'ada who collaborated to create Nirn.

World=Plane=Planet=God

--M1SSYF1V3 22:28, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

The interplay of Anu (Aedra/et'ada of stasis) and Padomay (Daedra/et'ada of change) created Nir (the early magical spirits of life). Anu loved Nir, and she gave birth to (created) the 12 worlds of creation (12 planets), Nir died in birth (The magical spirits died) and Anu went to sleep. Meanwhile, "life sprang up on the twelve worlds of creation and flourished." The life created was the Ehlnofey, which became men and mer and the hist, the ancient trees. Padomay (Daedra), the beings of change, attempted to shatter the 12 worlds, so Anu tried to combine them all into one, "Nirn -- the world of Tamriel," in order to save them. But it became chaos because Anu was unable to finish before he and padomay trapped in the void (Outside the Mundus, which encompasses Nirn). In this allegory, some of the gods/et'ada escaped Nirn and became planets of the Aetherius (Magnus becoming the sun, his followers the stars), while other et'ada were trapped in the Mundus (Aedric and Daedric planes/planets), due to Lorkhans creation of limitation. Some of the ancient spirits remained Ehlnofey and some became the earth bones. Although, this allegory isn't perfect because it varies between accounts, and some details arent exactly parallel, such as anu's blood is said to be the stars and the aedra are the mixing between the blood of anu and padomay (which doesn't fit this allegory clearly at all). I wish others would offer their insights on this topic :)Hope 06:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

SourceEdit

Most of this information may come from A Children's Anuad, which puts all of these events with Anu and Padomay in the Mythic, not Dawn, Era. This is just a guess but this is probably where the site got its information from. — Unsigned comment by 71.192.171.162 (talk) on 30 June 2008

And *that* is why we don't use allegorical fables as historical references. — Unsigned comment by 24.31.156.165 (talk) on 26 July 2008

flawedEdit

The entire reworded Timeline should be scrapped. This is supposed to be a historical timeline but only paraphrases one allegorical bedtime story. It is even mislabeled. It describes the Dawn Era and events before Mundus existed. The TIL timeline describes the Mythic or Merethic Era. The latter term is clearer and not misleading, like the former. — Unsigned comment by 24.31.156.165 (talk)

MerethicEdit

Is there any translation of this word, does it mean something, or is it "just" a name? -Meisterdieb 15:26, 26 January 2009 (EST)

"Mer" obviously refers to the Elves. I'd guess that the "ethic" part is just a nod to the word "Mythic". –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 15:36, 26 January 2009 (EST)

The Nords named places Mereth and Dunmereth. 'Elf-tacular Era.' Elf-riffic.' Something like that.Temple-Zero 15:54, 26 January 2009 (EST)

Also, during much of the time in this era only elves (mer) lived in Tamriel. Men migrated in over a large period of time, but we know the elven cultures were the most active in permanently settling Tamriel during this era, the altmer, dwemer, and aylied mainly. The Dunmer were considered the velothi altmer at this time also because their skin hadn't been changed yet.Hope 21:45, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

The end of the Merethic EraEdit

On the lore page listed that:
ME > 2500 — The end of the Merethic Era
We know that the number in this era counts downward from 2500, how could it be more than 2500? I think this is an obvious error.

The Dragon AgeEdit

Hey just wondering either why dragons are not mentioned here or can I or someone else add it? I only ask because on the lore dragons page states they live in the merethic.(Darco (talk) 22:29, 3 March 2013 (GMT))

Most of this page is directly copied from a certain source. It's quite old, so naturally it doesn't reflect all the changes in lore established in Skyrim. Of course, you're free to add to it, as long as it's verifiable. -- Kertaw48 (talk) 16:34, 4 March 2013 (GMT)

It seems to me that since it has been established that Hakon One-Eye, among other, fought Alduin in the Merethic era, this fact should at least be noted in the timeline. However, I don't know where this would fall within the order of events that have been documented. --Xyzzy ^Talk 02:25, 28 August 2013 (GMT)

Checking TIL shows this occurring in the late Merethic age, around 1E139. Does anybody know where this date comes from? --Xyzzy ^Talk 02:32, 28 August 2013 (GMT)

I'm way late to the party on this, but I can shed some insight on where the 1E139 date comes from. Jeroic from TIL and Bethsoft compiled a list of references of people, places and things from the Dragon War, Falmer War and other periods of Skyrim's history. I made some contributions to this research as well, notably about Ahzidal. http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1500221-timeline-machinations-penultimate-edition/ Pilaf The Defiler (talk) 11:08, 29 June 2014 (GMT)