Could that be .. a refernece to Lucien Lachance? God, how I missed him back in TESIV...
- No, it's a reference to your character from Oblivion, who travels to the Shivering Isles and becomes this guy. Jayden Matthews 10:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- Because your character from Oblivion was the Listener, not Lucien. Lucien was just a Speaker. 126.96.36.199 14:05, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
- Right, I understand that, but what does the Shivering Isles/Sheogorath have to do with being the listener or any of that? Added for shits and giggles? In Oblivion you became the listener of the Black Hand, you had to talk to the Night Mother in Bravil (I think) to do the 'never ending' quest. There's also the Listener mentioned in Cicero's journals (Alisanne Dupre). Doesn't matter too much but this game is full of little references. So awesome. -max — Unsigned comment by 188.8.131.52 (talk) at 17:11 on 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Upon killing Astrid in order to fail "With Friends Like These..." and begin "Destroy the Dark Brotherhood!", she whispered "Well done." Is this specific to this instance, does she say that if you kill her at the end of "Death Incarnate," or was it random? If we can confirm it's not random, it would probably be a valuable piece of trivia for her page. (If it's relevant, I killed her with a finishing move.)--184.108.40.206 16:33, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- She also said the same quote ("Well done") to me in the Xbox version of the game upon several different tests (killed her, reloaded, killed her again, reloaded, etc.) except for the one time when I cut her head off where she did not say anything. Which I guess is realistic as it's hard to talk when you don't have vocal chords anymore. 220.127.116.11 00:10, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Killing Astrid - Destroy the Dark Brotherhood!Edit
For the quest "With Friends like these..." Astrid tells you that you won't leave until someone in the room dies. I chose to kill Astrid herself. That action causes this quest to fail, however a new quest line immediately begins: "Destroy the Dark Brotherhood!". After killing her I released all three captives.
The first objective is to tell a guard you've killed Astrid. The second objective is to speak with Commander Maro (@Dragon Bridge). The third objective is to Kill everyone in the sanctuary.
I am currently playing this out and have not begun the third objective.
I feel this quest fork should be documented on the Astrid page. 18.104.22.168 01:53, 4 January 2012 (UTC) Magnum
Blade(s) of WoeEdit
It is possible to pick-pocket the Blade of Woe off of Astrid before before you kill her, and then pick up another Blade of Woe as she lays dying. You can't do this when she's burnt to a crisp, but as long as you take it off of her any time before or during the quest To Kill an Empire you will be able to do it. — Unsigned comment by 22.214.171.124 (talk) on January 16, 2012 17:35
- Yes, if you have the last Pickpocket perk (steal equipped items) you can take her Blade of Woe, then at the end of the questline you'll have two blades. But it will have the "stolen" tag, so if you get thrown in jail it will be confiscated. — Unsigned comment by 126.96.36.199 (talk) at 03:02 on 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Are you sure? I've got a ring that raises my chance by 6684%. It works on many things. I gave her a Glass Sword and she equipped it on exiting and re-entering the sanctuary, but now she refuses to let me have her Blade of Woe. I've tried at least a dozen times. I gave her the Jester's Clothes, and those should be about as hard to pickpocket, but they have a 90% chance versus the ever insistent 0% on the Blade. I'm determined to exploit this, unless someone has an answer for why the game is blocking me.--Playerseekingbugs (talk) 03:56, 3 March 2013 (GMT)
Bizarre Weapon EquipingEdit
I gave Astrid an Iron Greatsword and Glass Sword during my continuing struggle to get her to part with her precious Blade of Woe. She equips the Glass Sword on entering the Sanctuary, and on each failed pickpocket attempt she equips the very thing I want to try to kill me. If I then run merrily around the main chamber of the sanctuary she will chase me around cycling through her weapons from Blade of Woe, to Glass Sword, to Iron Greatsword (lingering on using the Blade of Woe for longer than the other two). I don't think I've ever seen an NPC do this, unless you count archers switching between bow and dagger. Also, she completely resists being paralyzed or affected by Ice Form. Is it possible that Unrelenting Force will give me the opening I need to pry the only weapon I can't seem to take from her pockets? I don't see how anyone got her Blade of Woe while in the middle of the Dark Brotherhood questline, since surely even Misdirection would force you to pass what I can only guess is some sort of weird barrier in pickpocket calculations or something.--Playerseekingbugs (talk) 04:53, 3 March 2013 (GMT)
- Now I get it. The formula for pickpocket leaves enchanting useless if you couldn't take the item period before applying it...in some cases. This was sadly one, so I went and raised pickpocket to 100 and came back and got it without the ring. I really don't get what they were thinking limiting fortify pickpocket, I took the most valuable things save some steel weapons and armor from several dozen NPCs without hardly any trouble at all. There isn't much extra stuff of any use to be had if the enchantment wasn't reigned in.--Playerseekingbugs (talk) 17:07, 9 March 2013 (GMT)
Related to Lucien Lechance?Edit
Some of her speech patterns seem deliberately similar, as if the script writers are coaching the voice actor to slightly impersonate Lucien Lachance. Also she has Shadowmere. So I wondered if maybe she is his great-granddaughter or something.— Unsigned comment by 188.8.131.52 (talk) at 14:42 on 1 December 2015
If you open the Letter of CreditEdit
Found out that if you open the letter of credit before giving it to Astrid, when you do give it to her, she'll commment saying:
"But by Sithis, I hope I'm making the right choice here. You may be an effective killer, but your command of guile leaves much to be desired.
The sealed letter you delivered to me was mysteriously unsealed upon its arrival. I can only assume you've read its contents. Sloppy..."
I am playing using Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch v3, and even after disabling it to check, I'm unsure if this applies to vanilla Skyrim, with or without DLCs.
Can it somehow be mentioned?
Enthralled (burnt) AstridEdit
I just wanted to add that after killing her in the aftermath of the Sanctuary attack, you can use a "dead thrall" spell on her burned body. She will equip whatever weapon you give her while being dead, but no armor, making her really easy to kill by enemies and not very useful in combat; but the visual effect is somewhat interesting for a thrall. Also, she doesn't speak at all. --m05c0184.108.40.206 04:30, 12 April 2019 (UTC)