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Oblivion talk:Helvius Cecia

1 hit blowEdit

Is it possible to kill him with 1 hit if it exceeds his health? — Unsigned comment by Lucky the Cat Guy (talkcontribs) on 4 August 2008

Given that reducing his health to 0 will kill him, no matter how many hits it takes, I'd say yes. — Unsigned comment by 32.155.38.124 (talk) on 1 November 2008

strange dialogueEdit

On my game i accidentily hit him as he was calling it off and he yell "you dont hit me!!!!!" i found it strange becuase he asked me to hit him but has this happend to anyone else?--LuciusZelgius 03:46, 23 November 2008 (EST)

That always happens if you hit him after he's stopped the fight. –RpehTCE 03:56, 23 November 2008 (EST)

he doesent wana train meEdit

i went up to him and i go down and theres no training thing what could i do?— Unsigned comment by 74.229.0.220 (talk) on 31 December 2009

Have you raised your hand to hand skill to 70? In order to receive any master training you need to raise your skill to 70 and then get a recommendation from an advanced trainer (you can see the quest page to know exactly how to get the master training), or fortify it and get the recommendation. --MC S'drassa T2M 03:11, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Hypocrite?Edit

The fact that he boasts about how he praises the Nine and that he is also in the Theive's Guild gives me the idea that he doesn't really worship the Nine as much as he syas. I find that this may be worth noting in the actual article. Does anyone else agree? 69.177.39.157 07:08, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

A lot of Thieves Guild members act "innocent" in everyday life and Helvius is no exception. Of course, he visits the Chapel every Sundas from 8am to 10am, not to pray or receive any blessings, but merely to wander around. Prolific TG members like Fathis Ules will do the same. Still, I think that whether he is a hypocrite or not should be up to the player to decide, not us. --Krusty 08:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
He is not only a hypocrite, but also a fraud. When I saw him get into a fight, he ran for a sword instead of using his fists. His blade skill was about 50 levels higher than his Hand-to-Hand. He is not a Monk like he suggests, but is actually a Rogue. Maybe he teaches Hand-to-Hand to give the impression of being a monk. 174.102.125.117 17:34, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Conditions under which "training" script breaks?Edit

I've run into at least one occasion when Cecia starts "fighting" instead of sparring (identifiable by him actually starting to punch you--if this happens, he won't stop and say that's enough, although you may be able to yield and keep him alive.). Has anyone else run into this and, if so, what are the conditions? My hunch is that this might happen if he winds up wandering outside the ground floor (the occasion(s) when Cecia started fighting all took place when he wandered on to the stairs), but not sure if this is actually the case.

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